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September 29 芬兰大学生的实习经历——异人眼中看到的问题As I request, a student from Finland give me the report of his internship in China. It's not so positive when he tried to reflect his cultural-shock in the work environment, but I believe it will benefit the company's staff or other Chinese people to understand and improve ourselves to win the understanding and respect from people coming other countries. ----------------------------------------------- My 10 weeks internship period in *** Company was very interesting. **** is a state owned enterprise and that fact alone gave thrilling wipes for this experience. Company provided me an apartment which was okay, normal Chinese style apartment. There was bus form my doorsteps to the company but I bought a bike, because I like cycling a lot. Company provided me free lunch at dining hall; food there was good even though variation between different weeks was not so great. First days I tried to adapt to new environment and to my new colleagues. At first I was asked that what I would like to do. For me it was very strange question, because in my country when you take a intern you already have a task on your mind and when new person comes you tell him that you are going to do this this and this thing. Interns in Finland always replace a normal employee when he goes to enjoy his summer holiday. So we do the same things that normal guys will do. Cultural difference in deed and based on that I replied that I would like to do same things that you are doing. So at the end of my first week I was asked that can I do 3D models from Autocad drawings. When I saw the software I was supposed to use and understood what I was asked to do I said that I can’t do this I’m not a designer. So I ended up doing some quite pointless research work from very restricted internet. My orders were to try to find something relating to new production technologies. Finding few articles was basically all I did during 10 weeks internship period. I don’t know why I was placed to this project team, but it was not the most suitable place for me. I know that my studies look a little bit confusing; I have two majors and a lot of completed courses. I think that someone didn’t understood what’s the difference between study program and a major. I’m studying in mechanical engineering study program, but my major is industrial engineering and if you look through my study records it’s quite easy to see that I’m not a designer. So again a communication error I think. So I did what I did independently and all the others in my office were doing their own things. I was not a part of the team at any point and I felt that I’m in a way there. At the beginning I went to another production sites and wrote same kind of comparison between Finnish and Chinese production sites. But that was on a very general level because if I just go there to have a quick look what I can write about that? I don’t have thirty years expertise in engineering and manufacturing. But these visits were highlight of my internship period because it was very interesting to see these sites. I have to mention a funny story from my second production site visit in my first week. In the morning I went to a bathroom and when I came back my colleague told me that you have to go to another plant right now and write a report for next Monday, that’s it. And it was like bus will leave after 5 minutes so go now. My boss only shout me from the back that bye bye and so I went. From that moment I had the feeling that he liked best when I’m outside of the office and most issues were also spoke in that way that I was outside of the office when he told to someone to pass this information to me. So after one hour on a bus I arrived to this factory. I went there and waved my ID card around and asked from everyone who I saw that to you speak English, because in my opinion it’s not wise to go around the factory by myself without any guide. After all it was a casting plant so they handled liquid metal there. So I spend another hour trying to find out someone how could speak some English. My visit came without any warning to people working in this plant but I managed to find someone how could say some basic things in English. After lunch we did a tour around the factory but the most of the questions I asked she didn’t have required information or she couldn’t understand. 12.30 I took bus back to my office as I was ordered to do. Interesting experience but in Finland we handle things in a more professional way. There is no point to just go somewhere and it’s dangerous also in many places. So I proposed that next time I could at least go with my Chinese fellow student how also did factory visits. And we went once together which was a lot more effective way to do this. At some point I spoke with human resource and they showed me a plan of my internship period. But why they didn’t show me this at the beginning? Why wait 5-6 weeks? Plan was something like to study this and learn something of this. That point I realized that they don’t have anything for me to do; they just want that I can read something and be here. And when I spoke to Chinese students they confirmed that usually employers don’t trust students so they don’t actually do anything, they just be there and try to learn something. Different culture and different ways of doing things but after that I started to think that maybe I should leave earlier. Travelling is my main interest and when I don’t even have anything to do why should I stay here. Final decision to leave earlier I made one morning when my boss wanted me to repair a window! I was like are you kidding, but now he was not. He told to my colleague that I should repair that window as soon as possible and he said to my colleague many times that ask from me that when I’m going to repair it. I could see from my colleague’s appearance that it was not a joke and she was in a very difficult position in the middle of this. Maybe my boss thought that I have broke that window or something, which of course I have not did, in Finland his behavior is called fucking with someone and it’s extremely rude so I went to HR and said that I’m leaving at the end of this month. They said okay and don’t worry about the window. I went back and told to my colleague that I will leave and please inform my boss. Only thing he replied was when I’m going to fix that window. Later that day I was transferred to another office inside same department. I don’t know if these incidents are related or not but I feel much better now. Of course I still don’t have tasks to do, but I have learned the rules of the house so I do my own things and try not to be on the way. Thanks to my own computer and almost private office I can entertain myself 8 hours without any problems J A conclusion, a lot of communication problems I think. I think that the idea was to take in someone and just see how it goes. It went somehow; of course I have to admit that I failed to find my place form this department, so in the end I felt like outsider all the time. All in all it was very educational experience, but 10 weeks is definitely enough. In that time I learned everything I could from Chinese way to run and act in office. Professional experience point of view I didn’t learn a lot, but because I’m studying also management and in that point this was a valuable lesson of how about different kind of way to manage things. ------------------------------------------- My personal opinions for the cross-cultural problems are as follows: 1. It's very important of the Chinese companies that they shall give an orientation to a new staff: As I know, many of the Chinese companies don't have a very good orientation. The orientation shall not be regarded as announcement of the company's rule or only introduce your colleauges or supervisor. A good orientation will include the following parts: 1) Company's business and organizing structure 2. It's very important to stop the staff's situation that has no work or no task 3. The best way of improving the communication is from both side Then how to develop the skills to approach the Chinese manangers, it shall be the most interesting and biggest meaningful part of foreign interns' experience in China. I will work hard to help all the interns, but I want to remind all the people: Nobody can approach others if you feel their behaviour and styles are weird. So have the interests to accept different people is the precondition of cross-cultural success. Therefore, there are many failure cases are aroused by the foreigners’ unwillingness to change the way they are comfortable with in communication. September 12 国外机构在沪招募人才出新招——晚宴餐桌上选才俊记者轩召强 晚报讯 想跟知名企业的人力资源负责人共进晚餐并深入交流吗?还有机会被企业“慧眼识珠”,这种好事对已“习惯”看用人单位脸色的大学生来说无疑是“天方夜谭”。 明晚,一场由爱因斯特(中国)发起的“ONE联壹活动”将在沪举办,数家知名企业将出资摆下几桌盛宴,款待从各大高校中筛选出的优秀学生和高校代表,在共 进晚餐中探讨大学生就业及企业人力资源开发等话题。 组织此次活动的爱因斯特(中国)秘书长郭涵芳告诉记者,目前大学生与企业界的接触往往仅限于实习或者招募面试等,但在这种环境下,大学生很难和来自企业 的代表进行自由平等的交流。而在海外一些发达国家,就经常会组织一些企业和学生代表共同参与的活动,不仅给企业提供了独特的商业人际网络和大学生招募机 会,也提供了企业与大学生自由开放交流的机会。 据悉,“ONE联壹活动”将以共进晚餐形式进行,企业的人力资源负责人将与大学生代表及高校就 业、教务部门代表在轻松、双向的交流氛围中共享沟通的乐趣。该活动目前已经吸引到如西门子、虹桥机场等多家知名企业的参与,并已预订了5桌丰盛晚餐。参与 的学生也已在各大高校展开了招募、筛选工作,原计划邀请35位—40位学生参与,现已全部报满。 转自《新闻晚报》9月12日 September 11 天花板漏水了,不过爱因斯特的天还不能塌下来.....唐老师冲过来说,Fanfan你来看看新大陆阿....我马上问,是好的新大陆还是坏的?她说当然是坏的,然后我去看到门口的LOGO标志墙上面霉掉一大块,唐老师和Ellen说,奇怪,昨天还没有的,怎么今天就霉掉了?我一看,心想大事不好,叫唐老师马上叫物业来看,然后果然证实是漏水了。 当年装修的工人把检修孔开在错位处,必须马上找人重新开天花板维修,这么巧的是隔壁刚搬家,把隔壁的工人叫来,开始把天花板拆卸。自从搬进来2年不到,天花板不同地方漏了3次,我跟物业抱怨,工作人员说——这个大楼都建了10年了.......我联想到今天去了**大学的巨大校园,我当时跟Venny说,我们中国建了这么多大楼,可怜很多人要沦为清洁工,因为需要维护清洗的大楼实在太多了。早上才说的话,现在就砸在我的头上了! 天花板一直修到晚上,期间我不在,回来的时候听工人说,物业也没搞清哪里漏水,就拿了胶带把漏水的管道全部包包就算了。我知道的时候,工人已经把破开的天花板糊上了,我问他怎么可以还没搞清楚就做回去了?他说他也不知道,他只管把天花板放回去,我倒! 不得不提的是我今天接到的一个电话,某申请土耳其并且被录取的同学,因为申请的实习原来在暑假被拖延了,所以他不想去实习了,然后来问给他能否安排一个德国的实习机会。我问他知不知道他的放弃给我们带来一个Offer的损失?能不能协助我们寻找合适的替代者?或者他自己延后到寒假去实习? 他显然根本没想到我的这些问题,一直给自己辩解,说在暑假等了很久,寒假觉得再去也没有意义,还有他自己不可能找得到人...... Venny今天在我的Office接到一个电话,一个已经被西班牙接受的中国学生,要求直接和对方教授联系,延迟原定的实习时间。Venny挂了电话的时候跟我说,为什么这个学生一再打电话来重复她的要求,Venny从一开始就告诉她如果已经被接受了,还要推迟实习,那么对方教授就可能因此取消她的实习资格,于是她就开始推托,先是说签证出了问题,经过爱因斯特西班牙协助后,她又说是时间有问题,总之,不断找出其他理由来试图延迟,而不承认是她自己要延迟,还不肯承受可能的相应实习被取消的后果。 从这两个中国学生的Case,说明他们的规则观念是没有的。做好的约定,签订的协议,承诺的实习时间,如果因为自己这方的条件改变了,那么打破规则是他们毫不犹豫地选择,而试图摆脱自己要承担的责任,也是他们毫不犹豫的正常反应。 今天还听说,有的家长在孩子填报大学志愿后,去跟老师理论说,自己的孩子不懂事,当时志愿是乱填的,要求重新更改,还有的家长半夜三更给老师打电话,因为找不到自己的孩子,报出自己的孩子的大概地址后就逼着老师去马上找到.....想想跟他们比,第一绝对数量没有他们大,其次责任也没有他们承担那么大,我想我还们算幸运的。今天中午跟大学老师吃饭时听他们评价说,现在的大学生根本不在乎别人怎么,只知道自己的需求,不管自己的行为后果给人家造成的损失和应该做的补偿意识。然后老师跟我说,没有规则意识,不尊重别人的工作,这个不是大学生的问题,是整个社会的问题...... 今天早上我跟Venny去学校拜访的时候,一个外国男子看我们在说英语,先问Venny是不是找不到复旦(因为她替我拎着复旦大学的袋子),后来发现我不是Venny路遇的试图帮助她找路的陌生人后,又开始说起熟练的普通话。我让Venny问后,发现他是加拿大人,在上海待了4年,他用普通话和上海话分别表示了他的中文能力,然后他一起的一个中国女子夸我的英文很好,他听说我做跨文化交流的工作时候,他说I can understand your feeling,然后他跟我们表示他对中国文化不能适应,比如地铁里推来挤去的人们,还有在他住处附近骂街的老太太邻居。 我感觉到他对中国人和社会的不屑,当他再次表示I can understand your feeling,然后用一种不屑一顾的眼光环顾地铁车厢的时候,我突然说I don't think you can understand,然后告诉他,If you don't like China, why come here? 他大概感觉到了,下车的时候跟我们说他昨晚喝醉了,很晚才睡,人不大舒服,然后就跟我们拜拜了。 这不是我看到的第一个蔑视中国人的外国人,我们自己的外国实习生,也会有些学生因为中国企业或者身边的人存在不尊重人和规则的普遍现象,失去对我们的国家和民族的尊重。在我看来,中国民族从来没有这么的经济快速发展,也从来没有过如此的价值体系和社会规则遵守意识的混乱过,而且因为缺乏长期的双赢合作意识,装修工人偷工减料,大学生骑驴找马浪费我们的实习机会,企业缺乏对人的信心只需要工具而不是人才.....所以一切现象,本质都是一致的。 当然,中国的天永远不会塌下来,股市照样涨,房市照样热,不过人的生存质量,那份对承诺的严肃和诚挚,因为被我们中国人自己不知道扔到哪个角落去了,所以我们还得承受被外国人看轻的后果! September 07 中国式家长(不得不续)电话响了,Qin来找我,“Fanfan,有个家长很着急的样子,你来跟她说吧...” 然后一个妈妈在电话里告诉我,她的女儿跟家里约好了要在9月7日通可视电话,但是说好了时间没有通上,家里很着急。因为昨天的经验,我就告诉她应该没有关系的,不要太担心,然后问她女儿去了多久了,她说7月份就去了,9月7日是她孩子最后一天上班,预计9月11日返回中国。我一听就觉得晕阿,忍不住就问她都去了那么久了,就一个电话没通上何必那么着急啊。但是这个妈妈显然不要听我的安慰,只是硬要我按照她有的那个爱因斯特德国的电话直接帮她马上通话,因为打了电话去,但不会德文所以没法交流。 我就告诉她,我只能发email,除非有什么急事,否则对方一是跟我们有时差,二是毕竟没什么大事,搞得大家都紧张实在没有必要,而且也许等我费尽周折找到她女儿,说不定他们已经都联系上了。这个妈妈看没法说服我,就差爸爸上阵了,这个爸爸还算比较通情达理些,同意我先发Email的建议了。 这个电话花了我大概10分钟,但是我觉得沟通效率极低,我说的话家长估计听进去20%都不到,而且因为我不愿意为他们打电话折腾,还也许让家长们很不高兴了。 晚上6点半,我和Teresa还在处理新公布的瑞士、日本的4个Offer的时候,我问Teresa信写了没,她说写了,而且那个妈妈又电话去问她了。Teresa说这是最近几天的第3个家长了,我就奇怪说,除了昨天的还有谁啊,然后我从她那里知道的家长故事还有更离谱的如下: ----------------------------------------------------- 某爸爸紧急致电,说没法联系上孩子,然后妈妈再来询问,经过Terea了解核查,才发现这个孩子才上飞机,然后Teresa告诉家长孩子关机的原因。之后家长几个小时后又来问为什么还是没有消息,Teresa告诉他们至少要飞十多个小时,然后父母还是不断向我们工作人员表达他们的焦急心情。 某学生已经自己离开前往海外实习,直到第二天,他爸爸才带着N5b表来交给我们。——N5b表示要求学生在被接受后2周内返还,并且要让我们通知对方接待时间的文件,后来也不知道他到那里是如何接上头了。 ---------------------------------------- 有时候我在听电话,试图安慰家长的时候,总是在做这种无效沟通,然后偶尔我都觉得恍惚中,我不知道我到底是国际组织的秘书长还是中国幼儿园园长.........I am international baby sitter................ 救救我们的中国家长吧! September 06 中国式家长 Chinese Parents我在等电梯的时候,一个中年男人走进了爱因斯特中国办公室。我正准备离开,但是看到他很焦急把一个文件包递给Teresa要求帮助。 "Hm...也许有什么很严重的事情发生了",我想。 于是我走回办公室,准备面对那些爱因斯特的工作中,我每天需要面对的麻烦事情。 他是一个正在西班牙作爱因斯特实习的中国学生的父亲,他的儿子4天前到西班牙了,开始2天每天和他通话,但是后来2天就失去联系了。现在父母都很着急得觉也睡不着,最后决定来我们这里寻求帮助。 "谢天谢地,没有什么大事发生...." 我听清后松了一口气。 "不要着急,我们会尽快找到您的儿子让他联系您。中国学生经常这样的,一般是因为出去旅游了或者是因为觉得电话费太贵..." 我尽力安慰着这个父亲,但是显然我的说服力不够,因为他把我的解释理由都一一否决了。 "他不可能出去旅游的,他才到西班牙阿!他也不可能没有电话卡和钱的,因为他前面两天都在给我们电话的...."然后我就跟Teresa说,叫Venny马上联系爱因斯特西班牙,通知这个学生马上联系他爸爸。 当我和他一起离开办公室的时候,我建议他不要太担心自己的儿子。 "您的孩子都是成年人了,这是很好的锻炼自己生存能力的机会", 我跟他说。 "不行的,他都不会自己烧饭的,我还要在电话里教他怎么烧菜呢",这个父亲跟回答。 然后我说," OK, 这是您让他自己处理问题的最好机会了,他必须学习了"。这个父亲这次没有反驳我,但是我知道他心里肯定还是不接受我的建议的。 一个可怜的中国式家长,因为2天没有儿子的信息就急得觉都睡不着。他那么老远的赶来找我们,甚至不是用电话联系我们,当我告诉他"你带着的资料里面有我们的联系电话,您可以给我们电话"时,他说 "喔,我宁可自己过来,这样少些担心。" 一天后,Venny从爱因斯特西班牙得知,这个学生是因为电话卡上没钱了所以没打电话,显然他不知道2天没有信息给他父亲是多么紧急的事件,他还让我们转告他父亲他没事的。然后我跟Venny说,叫他马上给他爸爸电话。因为他父亲要的不是没打电话的原因,而是听到声音确定他没有安全问题。 Kelly说,"Oh, 为什么中国家庭保持着这么紧密的关系,造成孩子和父母双方这么大的压力和痛苦呢?"所有年轻人都同意她的话,但是我猜大部分家长是不同意的。 这大概就是所谓的"代沟"或者"文化差异吧", 无论对错,我们必须理解和忍耐这些,然后我们员工也因此必须承担桥梁功能....... A middle age man came into IAESTE CHINA office when I was waiting in the elevator. I was about to leave when I saw he gave a folder to Teresa and seemed to be very anxious in asking for help. Hmm, maybe there is something very serious happened.... I thought. Then I came back office and prepared to face very severe and troublesome matters which I have to prepare to face everyday in IAESTE work. He is father of one Chinese student who is taking IAESTE internship in Spain now. His son arrived Spain about 4 days ago. The student called back his father in the beginning 2 days then lost contact with him for the later 2 days. Now both the parents could sleep very well and finally the father is coming to ask urgent help. "Thanks god! It's not big deal...." I thought when I got to know the whole matter. "Don't worry, we will try to find your son and inform him to contact u ASAP. It's always happening of Chinese students and usually it's due to some travel or concerns of expensive telephone fee..." I tried to comfort the father but obviously I am not convincing enough, because the father killed all my explanations. "It's impossible for him to travel, he just arrived Spain. It's also impossible he didn't have money to call me, because he just bought a new card and has called me in the first 2 days...." Then I told Teresa to tell Venny to contact IAESTE Spain immediately and inform the son to contact his father ASAP. When we left office together, I suggested him not worry too much about his son. "Your son is adult and I believe it's the good chance of him to be alone and survive himself." I said. "No, he even't can't cook and I have to teach him how to cook in the call." The father told me. Then I said, " OK, it's great chance you let him deal with the food problem and he will learn if he has to". The father didn't be defensive at my words but I knew he just gave up because he didn't want to against me. One of the poor Chinese parent, who can't sleep due to no news from his son in 2 days. He came from far away place to get news instead of calling us, when I told him there is our call number in the documents he has taken with us, he said " Oh, I prefer to come to make myself feel less worries". Then 1 day later, Venny got reply from IAESTE Spain that the son didn't call because he has no money in the telephone card and he didn't realize the urgency that his news shall be sent to his father. The student told us to forward the information to his father, and I told Venny tell the student to call his father because the parents don't want the reason but just want to hear his voice to confirm his safety. Kelly said "Oh, why the Chinese family shall have such an intensive relationship that cause stress and pain both to the Child and the parents". All the young people including me agree, but I guess most of the parents in that age don't agree. So that's so called "generation gap" or "cultural different", no matter it's right or wrong, you have to understand and tolerate it. And our staff including me have to be the role to bridge it....... By Fanfan.Guo September 04 My Luggage is Missing 遗失行李的时候IAESTE Students are coming and going to and from China for the internship -- all students can face the same problem when arriving : the luggage is missing!
Few days ago, a Chinese student just arrived in Europe and got in a panic after he couldn't find the luggage. The local committe picked him up and told him not to worry that they made the report to the Airlines company and they would track it down and send to his address.
He couldn't calm himself and kept mentioning about the luggage matter.
The local committe called the National Committe to report about this matter. It was 7 in the morning when the National Committe wrote us an email saying that they would send the student back to China because he couldn't understand English and they would find help to communicate with the student.
In the afternoon, Our National Secretary spoke to him on the phone : even in Chinese he kept saying about his worries with the luggage.
In short, it not the matter of language ability, it is a communication problem!
My concern is, when our foreign students come to China for the internship, I met around 4 students had this problem with luggage missing - but despite of their dissapointment, they would just move on and waited until the Airlines company delivered the luggage. Meanwhile, they would go shopping for some clothes and personal needs.
Panicing cannot solve your problem. We need to stop and start thinking ratioinally.
The world is the best classroom. Experience is the best teacher. IAESTE offers you both!
(by Venny)
不断的有爱因斯特的学生从中国出发去实习,也不断的有外国学生们来到中国实习,而所有初到陌生国度学生都可能会遇到这样的问题:遗失行李。 几天前,一个刚到欧洲的中国实习学生陷入了巨大的恐慌中——他丢了行李。当地的爱因斯特组织来接机时告诉他不用担心,他们会告知航空公司并通知他们把行李送到住地的。但是他不断的说着他的行李,没法镇静下来。 当地爱因斯特向他们的国家办公室报告了这件事。早上七点的时候该国的国家办公室给我们写了封E-mail说他们要把这个实习生送回中国,理由是他不懂英文,他们也找不到能帮他们与这个实习生交流的人。 当天下午,秘书长Fanfan与这个实习生通了电话,在电话里,他还在用中文抱怨行李的事。也就是说,这已经不是英文上的问题了,这实际上是沟通的问题。 我们也有很多外国学生到中国来实习,我就碰到大概4个学生丢了行李。但是无论他们多失望,他们都会把这个先放在一边然后等航空公司送行李来。在这期间,他们会去买一些衣服和个人用品。 恐慌并不能解决问题。我们只能停下来理性的思考一下。 世界是最好的课堂。经验是最好的老师。这两个爱因斯特都可以给你。 |
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